How many and what color

[terro]

I've never known a credible source, a textual source, a mythological source or even a person who claimed it that seemed to have their head screwed on straight that claimed a split soul. Everything I've ever learned states that souls don't split, and if there was something about your that made you "dark," you would be Fallen, end of story.

[sefewet]

why do you seek in mythology or some things, maybe even sciense.
my dark side is fallen type.
and my good side is not.
and if there is a part of me that says no and the other yes, if its strong enough it splits, its just simple as that...

[terro]

A person is singular, if you say yes, or if you say no, then you said it. If your personal wants say yes but your sense of duty and responsibility says no, then it is inner conflict, that is also the nature of life as was designed by the Creator. Honor, commitment, discipline and the temptation to smash it all for something fleeting or wrong.

The reason I say no is because I don't believe Angels split when they make a bad decision, if they give in to the temptation and do something grievous, they Fall. If they truly regret it, they look very much luck an Angel, and will be penant, maybe one day when the Fallen are able to be redeemed, they will be. If they do not... well those are the Fallen people read about in very bad stories.

[sefewet]

my good side doesnt wanted to take revenge, he only wanted to cry and search for a way to make things alright again.
my dark side wanted only revenge and there was a inner conflict and that maked me split.
i know you dont believe me off it, only someone who has experienced it only can.

[terro]

and I suppose you are the only one? The reason I don't believe you, is mainly because the only thing you have to back up any of this is your, very uneducated, word.

Those two sides are very well known, Freud called them the id, ego and superego. In extreme cases, a rift between these may cause something known as Disassociated Identity Disorder, or Multiple Personality disorder. It does not split your soul, it just splits a bit of your conscious thought between who you are, what you want to do, and what you know is right to do.

[Shade]

Everything I've ever learned states that souls don't split, and if there was something about your that made you "dark," you would be Fallen, end of story.

Forgive me, but doesn't Shamanism explain something similar to that? Not a soul splitting exactly as was described, but shattering or breaking? It happens after a traumatic event and can be recovered or healed with work. My knowledge on Shamanism is limited, but I do know that. As for having a soul split like the example, maybe this person is just conflicted and is trying to use familar terms to describe or understand it? Before you automatically disbelieve them, you should try to understand their point of view, not just their angelic side and history, but also their mortal one.

As for wings, should I post here? I have two, proportional to my body, dark brown with golden tips.

[redeemer143]

I agree that everyone should be given a chance, however, Sefewet had shown himself to be very, very confused and unbelieving of anything we told him. I am still unsure as to whether he was lying or if he just believed these things. If you read his post about God and Lucifer working together to fight aliens..... I don't know....

[Shade]

Not "given a chance" exactly, but instead of treating someone with complete disregard, try to see things from their side of the issue.

[redeemer143]

Granted. I did try to look at things from his side, but not a drop of it made any sense to me, he was very precise in saying that his soul was basically two completely different entities.

i have a splitted soul.
i have a dark side i have 6 black wings
and my good side has 8 white wings.
and they are splitted because of my history of my first and second life.
i will try to be 1 again, and then i have powers of all elements and be a sort of ultimate angel.
i must fight him to be 1 again but he is so much stronger, i find it strange that he did not took over my body all this time.

I personally was not trying to disregard him, and I'm sorry if the things we had said was offensive. I can't change that fact that I didn't believe a word he said, but yes I suppose I should have not been as... confrontational. I don't know what exactly was going on with Sefewet, but either way there is no way we could have agreed. He would not listen to us about other possibilities for him from what we know, and we could not believe what he said because it was basically impossible. (even as angels, we can't change physics)

[Shade]

Truth. I don't believe a snot of it either, but I've known people like that before, unfortunately in person, and that gave me some compassion maybe. I wouldn't want to be lost like him and get a rude reaction when maybe all I was looking for was help, maybe subconsciously.

[redeemer143]

You don't need to worry about that, you appear to be a very truthful and compassionate person. If you ever need help or advice, know that we will not lash out at you for something that you do not know or need counsel for.

The one thing I noticed about Sefewet, was that he simply said how things were, and that there was absolutely no way he could be wrong. Had he come here and said "this is what I believe" and "do you think so too?" He probably would have been a bit more accepted, at least he would have been more open to something else.

The point that I could no longer hold my tongue with Sefewet was, when he said that he knew Michael personally, and that he was a pervert. The closest I could see anyone calling Michael a pervert with even the slightest truth, is for his abilities for, and love for battle. (not that he loves fighting his brothers and sisters (he has to do, what he has to do), but just he is good at warfare.)

I don't think I have given you a proper welcome.....
Well, welcome to the group, if you have any need just ask. We are all family, and we are here to help. Other than that have fun!

[terro]

I'm a highly skeptical person. Shamanism has concepts of the damaging of the soul and steps to heal said soul. Not the dismemberment and reassembly of different souls to create one uber soul, the way one would mix and match car parts to obtain a quicker ride.

Sefewet's many different approaches sounded more like an anime series than a legitimate series of events. Sefewet did however come clean later on Otherkin.com to the administration that he was confused and was making most of this stuff up.

[redeemer143]

Well thats good to know. I'm glad he could admit it.

[marney]

hello to all. sincwe this is the wings thread I figured I'd post here to. my wings are just blackish grey with a hint of silver.

[terro]

aha, how'd you manage that much taint