ummm...help?

[sezna]

i am elemental and was curious..is this holy, azure, dark, or what? or is this none of those? or is it based on something else?

[queenofthedamned]

Hmm... most probably something else...
Well I'm vampire-angel but I have a little mastery over aerokinetics (manipulation of air).
So I suppose it doesn't really matter. I'm guessing its a special ability of the otherkin in general.

[kareshi]

and my consistent question that no one ever seems to want to answer...

What exactly can you do? As far as I can tell, Otherkin have the special ability to be just as talented as that kid that lives next door to you.

People say then can control fire and water and people's emotions... can you quantify anything, give exact scenarios or do you just pretend it online?

[queenofthedamned]

Yes that's true. I agree with you on that. Most of the Otherkin I meet are fake and they're also the unstable adolescences of society who want to feel "special".
I may be a bit biased but they're also the stereotypical emo or goth kids. Although, I still stand corrected.

Anyway, as I've already said I can manipulate air a little. And no, I do not pretend to do so online. It's not beneficial for me to get momentary attention for something I cannot do.

As I was saying, I "control" air whenever I'm idle by the window.
(Given that no one is watching, of course) I try to make the curtains blow up as high as I could or I blow certian pieces of light garbage (plastics, chip wrappers and what have you) in whatever direction I please.

I have been doing this for more than three years. I have improved much since level 1 but seems like i'm stuck at just blowing at small objects.

Other than aerokinesis, I am also quite empathic.
In contrast, I don't believe this is a special Otherkin ability because even humans are strongly empathic, at least some of them anway.


Well, I hope I've answered your question completely.
How about you (although you seem pretty much human to me) are you Otherkin?

[freelanceangel]

Honestly, the biggest reason I was afraid to peruse any otherkin related forums or websites was the people who claim to have extensive 'powers.' I'm pagan myself, I've cast spells, things like that, and I do believe that energy can be transmuted, converted and channeled, but not to the extent so many claim.
I have no powers as far as I'm aware of. (If I do, I wish they'd show up!) I am strongly empathic, but so is my best friend, the thylacine. (She's not quite a Therian; her beliefs don't stretch so far in that direction.) I did play a lot of telekinesis games with one of my friends in high school, but the best I could do was to pause a dangling necklace in midswing. I can claim very, very mild telepathy with those exceptionally close to me- my boyfriend, brother, etc- but it's more towards reading each other's impulses and responding in kind.
I've yet to see or meet anyone who could control things to the extent Sezna is claiming. And just how are you part elf, anyway? Are one of your parents of elven blood?

[sezna]

well for 3 years i have been practicing summoning energy and using it to slightly manipulate what i said. i have 2 friends in real life that have the same ability. together, we form the BEST fishing team. but yeah. im not pretending, and im not sure if what i do is what this website is about.

[kareshi]

part elf usually refers to people mainly of Celtic descent who believe that at one point there were Fae in their family. I'm pretty skeptical about hereditary Fae.

As far as being empathic... I always reserve skepticism because the symptoms people attribute to being empathic are identical to having a good interpersonal intelligence. It would be like saying that you are a mathamancer because you can glean the answers from math problems better than your classmates (even though it might just mean you have a good mathematical intelligence).

I agree with freelanceangel, energy manipulation and transmutation is possible, but not nearly to the extent that so many claim on the internet. My take is always that if things were that easy and that effective, it would be a major part of everyday life... and it'd be on youtube.

[freelanceangel]

Oh, so that's what being 'part elf' means? *blink* Interesting. If that was possible, my family would certainly be up for it. The only blood I have in my family tree that *isn't* Irish, Scottish or English is my single Cherokee line on my father's side. ^_^ You do have quite the point with the empathy comment, kareshi. It's true that interpersonal intelligence is a large factor in any empathetic ability. I'm honestly not sure if it's anything preternatural, but empathy is a good word to use for it. I do know that no one I'm acquainted with can lie to me about how they're feeling, and nine times out of ten, I can pinpoint what they're feeling and why. It's always possible that the reason so many people claim empathy as a 'power' is because we're a little more sensitive to people's facial expressions, vocal tone and patterns and unconscious gestures than other people might be.

[kareshi]

It also can be that people in their early teen years do not understand themselves or others fully (especially during those years where we are changing greatly), and after passing that point (which happens to coincide with when most people awaken) they get a grip on themselves and other people and start to be able to guess emotions better.

The conclusion is thus that after awakening they could guess people's feelings and emotions better, therefore awakening brought forth the ability to understand people, and then they called it empathy.

[freelanceangel]

That's remarkably reasonable. *nodnod* I'd have to agree with that as well. For anyone to really claim empathy, we can only work on our own experiences, and what one person may call empathy, another may call simply knowing the person you're talking to, or knowing people in general. It makes sense that a lot of people would 'discover' quite a bit of abilities after awakening, simply because of the time of life that such an event occurrs.
I do, however, say that my ability to find books anywhere, anytime, in any location- store, library, personal collection- is nothing short of supernatural. ^_~

[sezna]

so can i have an answer? i mean, u have o figure this out so i know which forum to post in.

[kareshi]

Elementals are different from Celestials and Angels, you fit into none of the categories.

"Holy" was a mis-term for Angels or beings who are not Fallen and therefore still in service to their deity.

"Dark" is a popularized term which goes for an Angel or being who is Fallen or has gone to what is more generally accepted as an "evil" path. The correct word for these Angels is "Fallen."

"Azure" is, for all I can seem to tell, a made up classification for Angels who are young, previously most people referred to these young Angels as "Young Angels." I am still actually waiting for a source or reference from where this word came from though.

You post in any forum you want, it's for discussion, not segregation, but the point of the classifications of "Holy," "Dark," or "Azure," was to hopefully classify types of Celestials.

You still also have yet to specify what you can actually do besides forming a good fishing team. In which case I'd just assume one of you knows how to jig the line at the right depth at a certain temperature of water. When you say you can slightly manipulate them, do you have any calculations or experimentations to quantitatively show that you have done something? Or is it that occasionally when you want the wind to stop there is a break in the gusts and you assume it is control over wind?

[sezna]

well actually once i went out into the beach and when i was in the waves a huge one about 5 feet taller than me was created. it came towards me, and i completely split the wave and did not even get wet(er than i already was). I also have blown wind strong enough to blow a soccerball back and forth over and over until i blew it up into my hands and threw it, the fishing thing was just trying to get a little humor in, you guys are so serious >.<, and i have created a wave in my pool that completely threw me against the wall, happy?

[freelanceangel]

I don't think it's so much that everyone here is very 'serious.' It's more a natural skepticism when someone is claiming the extent of ability that you are, Sezna. I could absolutely claim control over fire because I've had candle flames shorten and lengthen when I ran my hand over them, had bonfires flare and settle when I stood near or jumped over them. You know what it really was? Air pressure/movement. While all of us clearly have an elastic sense of disbelief- after all, we're a bunch of angels/demons/vampires/etc writing back and forth to each other- there are a few things that people claim constantly which will inspire skepticism. One of the girls I knew in high school- and consequently one of the reasons I chucked the 'Wiccan' label- claimed things very similar to what you're saying, Sezna. However, she could never muster the willpower/ability to demonstrate to everyone, and was always very adamant that she had those abilities and we were just 'normal folks' doubting her. Forgive us for the quirked brow, but claiming the level of ability that you do, it's rather natural.

[kareshi]

if as many people could do what you claim as there are those that claim it (five feet tall, then splitting it?), it'd be a very commonly accepted thing, about as accepted as gymnasts performing feats of tremendous balance and strength and martial artists breaking bricks with their bare hands, most of all, it'd be on youtube.

You now have some pretty unbelievable claims, can you produce evidence of it now?