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Post by IgnisRaven on Mar 2, 2008 17:47:02 GMT -5
Other than chaos and order, what is the difference between angels and demons?
-Ignis
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Post by shadewing on Mar 3, 2008 7:53:58 GMT -5
Chaos and order do not define angelic and demonic either. I have met some very Chaotic angels, and rather anal retentive demons as well. The only difference i know of the two is the feeling of their energy....It's hard to explain and I'm not going into detail about it.
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Post by Bonnie on Mar 3, 2008 13:59:25 GMT -5
Only differences I have noticed are appearance, and aura, to be honest. That being said, I've seen Angels with horns, Angels with "demon wings", and Demons with more Angelic appearance.
One of my favorite definitions of Demons, though, is as the Angels of Hell. They seem to have the same "social" structure as Angels do. "Choirs" and Archdemons. Where angels have "Choirs" and Archangels. Where Angels are generally seen as the guardians and servants of heaven... Demons seem to be the same thing for hell.
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Post by kareshi on Mar 7, 2008 11:06:29 GMT -5
Demons don't seem to have that hierarchy though, it seems to be that the name "Archdemon" is not placed by Demons, but by others, and usually on something very strong that others follow (chiefly because they're following a strong Demon so as to be on his good side and to fight for similar causes).
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Post by shadewing on Mar 7, 2008 18:37:04 GMT -5
Why is it demons have to be seen as sniviling, lying, plotting, evil bastards with no hint of being civilized, no feelings, no heart, cannot feel joy without seeing someone else suffer, cannot feel sadness when losing a friend if they are even capable of actually experiencing true friendship?
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Post by Bonnie on Mar 7, 2008 23:02:34 GMT -5
Its due to how most religions portray them. Its been ingrained to deeply in humanity's psyche that its hard for people to change their views.
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Post by kareshi on Mar 8, 2008 12:47:59 GMT -5
why is it that all you hear about from news reports are that the US being in Iraq is the worst thing since disco? Why is it you don't hear about the crime rate being down but you rather hear about a lack of arrests made by the police, or only hear about a few arrests of heinous crimes? Why is it you don't remember the guy who lets you into traffic but you will remember the guy who cuts you off? Why do people think of Islam and think immediately of international terrorists rather than a peaceful religion and some very rich cultural history?
Same reason people think of Demons as less than savory, the only ones remembered are those that are less than savory.
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Post by luinbariel on Mar 8, 2008 18:15:05 GMT -5
I think some of it has to do with where you come from, maybe.
All I ever hear, for example, are stories of how someone let them in during rush hour traffic. The city, and even province I'm in is notorious for being "nice"... it's even on our license plates ("friendly Manitoba").
Sure there are occasional instances where someone does something like cut you off or something bad that's news worthy... but it's not what's remembered as often.
I watch our local news and IF there's anything about said wars/conflicts on the news, it's on for less than five minutes. I see a HUGE difference when watching Canadian news as opposed to American news, not only in content, but in how the content is portrayed.
Personally, I'd much rather watch Canadian news... even if I'm hearing the same things.
However, in relation to the question at hand about demons; again, I think that's only for some people, and not all. It's a stereotypical thing, for sure; but there are just as many people who don't believe/repeat the stereotypes as there are who do. It's up to the individual to decide what they focus on when they hear something.
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Post by non-sequitur aeon on Mar 21, 2008 14:09:37 GMT -5
Demons don't seem to have that hierarchy though, it seems to be that the name "Archdemon" is not placed by Demons, but by others, and usually on something very strong that others follow (chiefly because they're following a strong Demon so as to be on his good side and to fight for similar causes). there are some texts on demonic hierarchies. look into sebastien michaelis, aleister crowley (goetia and so on). different legions, princes, kings and so on are mentioned...along with some "choir-esque" set-ups for fallen...though that's a bit off topic. i concur that there doesn't appear to be a regimented hierarchy but there does seem to be a bit of a pyramid. |
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Post by Ashmodai on Mar 22, 2008 6:36:17 GMT -5
I don't think that these hierarchies apply to every demon. I do not know of any hierarchy, just of different kinds and "jobs".
Not all demons go for chaos.
I tend to say that they (we) belong to the same family as angels and are just a different kind. I tried to express what I know and mean in my poem "Daimon" - maybe that makes clear what I try to explain.
Mostly I agree with shadewing and Daniel's Angel - the energy is slightly different and we sometimes have a more straightforward way to show the souls what we have to show them.
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Post by kareshi on Mar 22, 2008 23:12:44 GMT -5
the hierarchies and such of Demons are less of Demons, more of Fallen Angels. Individuals who are heavily regimented, when thrown into a power vacuum then attempt to re-create some form of power system.
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Post by non-sequitur aeon on Mar 25, 2008 23:00:11 GMT -5
i agree kareshi, just dispelling the aforementioned absence of any sort of order...even if it be rather spurious
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Post by Rash'Amadar on Mar 28, 2008 9:36:59 GMT -5
For me it counts what the soul is alike ... there are angels with rotten souls as well - and they are not 'fallen' at all. There are demons with a soul shining brightly ... There are angels thinking that every soul not being alike them and not having those 'angelic wings' etc. - are alike 'animals' and not good enough ... But they tend to forget that there is a purpose ... that the balance has to be given and that a soul cannot be made out with the appearance. For me it did and does count how the soul is - and not how the appearance is. You can be demon and shining brightly with love and light You can be angel and be rotten and dark as dark can be I remember that I did fight against both - angels and demons ... and I had demons by my side fighting for the same issue - the balance! Demons for me are a bit more straightforward in some things and are not that quick called off  when using more effective ways of showing things.  For me it just matters how the soul is - and not what 'race' ... |
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Post by Indigo Starshine on Oct 14, 2016 12:43:57 GMT -5
Since I'm an angel and my mate/boyfriend is a demon I can describe the difference more clearly. Like Rash'Amadar said, there are indeed "rotten" or corrupted angels. There are also "rotten" or corrupted demons. There are "bright" or pure angels. There are "bright" or pure demons.
The feel of the demon's energies is the Element of Darkness: shadowy, darker, misty like night, more of a subtle rumble in the feel, smoky aftertaste like food cooked in wood fires, and a substance/smell/feel of something similar to thick black smoke from a cheery bonfire.
The feel of the angel's energies is the Element of Light: glowing, warm, fluid, more insubstantial than the denser demon energies, a subtle sweet aftertaste like warm water with a bit of sugar or honey dissolved within it, and a substance/feel more like dabbling fingers in thin, flowing mist rather than anything like smoke.
The difference between a demon and an angel is literally: which Element do you have?
An angel cannot become a demon, and a demon cannot become an angel, because they wield different main elements. Just like you need the counterparts of Fire and Water to balance everything out in the universe, you need the counterparts of Light and Darkness. Together, they make up a beautiful whole. Like the yin yang symbol really.
It is only humans who have botched this up and decided that one half of the pair "must" be "good" and the other half "must" thereby be "evil." That sort of duality does not exist in nature. The closest nature comes to that moral duality is "pure" and "corrupt." Pure being more true to who you are and often sweet and kind and helping others or just making the world a better place just by being you and being there and relating with others. Corrupt meaning you have strayed from who you really are and have become twisted with anger, hatred, and pain into wanting to cause more pain and suffering upon others to the point of even getting happy off it.
For example in my mind: Lucifer was a corrupt angel. Satan was a corrupt demon. Lucifer didn't become a demon, he still remained an angel but a corrupted one.
My mate is a wonderful and amazing person, a pure demon you'd say. But he won't ever be an angel because he is not of Light, he is of Darkness and that's how he should be.
My twin is with my boyfriend-mate's twin so that works out wonderfully *lol* The angel twins with the demon twins.
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