Classis Celtic-Cross with Greek Myths!

[luinbariel]

Yes, I thought I'd try my hand at tarot over the internet once more!

I've done it a few times before using a webcam, which I can do again if you like, though I'd have to reinstall MSN messenger instead of Trillian temporarily.

Otherwise, I can give it an attempt without that, using just the cards. If I do, I'll take a picture of the spread and send it to you, then write it out as others have been doing thus far.

Any takers? And as others have requested, let's try one at a time, if you please.

Since celtic cross is what I'm most comfortable with, that is how the readings will be done, although I could look at a single card for you, heh.

As for questions, they can be fairly general or more specific, whatever you like.

[scars]

Me!,Me! first lol. ;D

[luinbariel]

lol ok, do you have a question?

[scars]

How about am , are my recent discoveries true?.
or is that too specific?

[luinbariel]

No, it shouldn't be too specific. I'll get to it either this evening or tomorrow night. I should be able to do it tonight, though, hopefully.

[luinbariel]

Ok, here it is!

Starting with the card in the first position, representing "you", we have the nine of cups. In this position, it seems to be pointing to the idea that you're feeling very pleased with yourself, very satisfied, and that this satisfaction is not misplaced. You've worked hard or remained faithful when things were tough, and you feel that you are now being rewarded. A cherished wish has been fulfilled.

Second position: This position represents what is crossing you, or what the issue is that's holding you back, causing you problems. Here, we have the page of cups. Often this card represents the birth of something new; sometimes a child, sometimes a new capacity for feeling and love. This doesn't always have to be in a relationship, and in this case my feeling is that it isn't... well, kind of. I think you have to be a little careful, feeling very proud of yourself for achieving whatever it is you've come to achieve. This card deals with Narcissus, who fell in love with his own self image, leading to his undoing. Be wary, as this may already be getting to be a bit of an issue in your day to day life, though you may not see it. To you, it feels like you deserve to express a little self-love (not the sick way), and indeed it IS ok, just be careful how MUCH.

Third card: Justice. This position typically reflects how you appear to others. I like to imagine it this way; this position is like a drawer full of masks, each with a different expression. These are the masks that you put on each day, and that others see. It's how you appear to others in that way.

Justice in this position seems to be saying that others see you, or even your situation, as being a little too chilly to be realistic. Things seem to either be or not be, with no room for anything in between. Justice often implies the need for impartial decision-making and deep, careful thought, but one has to remember that there are situations where this isn't appropriate. I think, in relation to your situation, it is appearing that you're taking things a little TOO seriously, and taking the relationship out of the decision/finding.

Fourth card: Knight of Pentacles. This position usually represents the WHY behind the third position, or the REASON that you appear as you do towards others, or your situation. In this case, the knight of pentacles is suggesting that you are doing these chilly interactions as mentioned above because you feel they are necessary to get the best for those you love. You are a gentle person, a caring person, and would rather take the burden of your discoveries, and/or their implications, upon yourself. You want to keep things comfortable for those around you.

Fifth card: Ten of wands. This position is usually related to events of the recent past, and it is usually recommended that these be forgotten, before one is able to move on into the future.

The card in this position is the ten of wands. It implies that very recently, you were feeling quite put upon by the world. It seemed that you had bitten off more than you could chew, and that was starting to weigh you down. You felt as though some of your youthful vigor had been lessened because of this (indeed, don't worry about your age so much, it's just a number). Remember, this has to be forgotten before you can move on! It's in the past, let it stay there.

Sixth Card: Three of Swords. The position this is in usually indicates the possible near future. What I see for this card is the possibility of strife, conflict, or seperation. In this case, I think you know what's going on; you've got some ideas and ideals that have been dear to you for quite some time, and they are now being presented to you in a wholly different light. It's going to take some doing, but this situation IS necessary... you can't delude yourself anymore, and you're well aware of that. Once you get on with it and accept the pain, deal with it, you can start to heal.

Seventh Card: The Sun. This position usually represents how you'll be in the future; it's like the first card, only later on. This is a really good card to have in the future, things are looking up for you, and may already have begun to do so, as this spread seems to be set, maybe... maximum three weeks in the past already.

The sun in this position implies that you will have some renewed optimism; you'll get past the pains of the last card and once again begin to feel hope. Plans can be made, and your trust has been renewed. You now feel that you've got a purpose again. You're ready to start heading towards whatever it is you feel is your goal now.

Eighth Card: Six of Wands. In this position, it looks as though others see that you've made some sort of excellent progress. You've come a long way in something that means a lot to you, and they recognize it. But you have to remember that, like all six's, this isn't the end of a long struggle; it's merely a huge step in the right direction. You must be prepared for some hard work in the future. And here it comes...

Ninth Card: Death. No, I'm sure we all know that death isn't necessarily a scary thing; just difficult. In this case, it's in the position indicating your hopes and fears, and that's why it's going to be difficult. You hope to be able to let your past ideals and beliefs go, but you're afraid of it at the same time. Afraid that you won't be able to fully accept again what you thought was probably gone forever. You were just starting to get very comfortable with where you were, and now that things have changed completely, you aren't sure you're up to the task of going along. You want to be, but you're afraid.

Tenth Card: Three of Cups. This is the position indicating a possible final resolution to this spread, if all of these cards come to be as this spread indicates. This card here is indicating a new beginning, a thrilling new beginning at that. You're going to be diving deep into something that you haven't been into for a long time, and it's an exciting prospect.

Hope that works... as far as I can see here, it looks like you already know whether or not your discoveries are true. It's just a matter of accepting your result and moving on, which is the definite harder part.

Please lemme know what you think... how's it look? Did I do well?

[shadowphoenix]

Is the question "Is there any deeper meaning behind my visions/spiritual journey in august and september 2007" too specific?

[luinbariel]

I don't know, I've never had such a specific question before, but I don't think it's going to be a big issue.

I'll have to get at it after dinner, though, which is almost ready; hopefully I can do it tonight 'cause I have to pick my sister up in the evening too. Too much work.

Heh I'll give it a try.

[luinbariel]

DAMNIT I just lost everything I wrote. It's just... gone. I have to start from scratch, no idea if it'll be the same.

First Card: The Hierophant. At this point, it seems like the spread is looking a little more at the time period you mentioned; it's focused on the past, for now.

At the time you started this sort of vision quest, you were more than ready to get started. You were actively seeking the questions that you got some answers for, though that doesn't mean you were ready for the things you saw. You believed you were, and may even have served as spiritual guidance for someone near you; or you may have met a guide of your own, who'd been waiting a little while for you.

Second Position: Ace of Pentacle. This card indicates that at the time you started your quest, you were presented with a great new financial oppertunity that got in the way of the way you wanted to go about your quests. It was something that had a time limit on it; whether it was your own desire to get out there and do something new, like an energy, or a new job or something that was offered to you. It was VERY hard to pass up, and posed some serious questioning.

Third Position: The moon. It seemed that other around you, even those who didn't know you well, were VERY aware that you were seeking philosophical answers. You might say that to them, you seemed to have your head in the clouds for awhile. You were confused, confounded, and your entire life was fluctuating from what you had established as norms to what was entirely new. It was an obviously spiritual thing to those around you; they waiting for you with bated breath.

Fourth Position: Knight of Pentacles. This is something that I don't often see paired with the moon. It seems to be pointing out that though you had your head in the clouds, you were doing so for a "good" reason. People seemed to think it took forever, but you knew it would. You were ready to go in for a long haul and work hard to find whatever it was you were looking for. It might even, in your mind, be for the good of all, not just the good of you.

Fifth Position: Nine of Wands. Your journey ended up being MUCH harder than you'd anticipated. It almost sank you, taking all of your energy. What you saw was not what you expected, which is why it's in such huge doubt, so far as I can tell. Just when you were super tired and thought you might actually make it through, something else came up. Possibly it was the vision that was the hardest to deal with. (Here, I get the ... thought? of someone saying "It's not fair, it isn't fair! and a few tears). The spread has now moved into what seems to be the now... you're still having difficulty dealing with what you saw and letting go of the fact that you've seen it.

Sixth Position: Seven of Wands. Whatever you saw went against conventional descriptions of that type of thing. It's like you saw a bunny with scales instead of fur, and people are telling you that "Bunnies have fur, not scales!" and you're all like "... but I saw a bunny with scales!" You're finding it tough to accept lots of what you've seen for that reason, I'll bet... It just doesn't match up with what people generally accept as the truth. This doesn't mean that it ISN'T true, by any means. I just means that it's causing great problems, internally and with other people.

Seventh Position: Seven of Swords. Looks like sometime soon, if not already, you are finding yourself feeling a little false when you manage to convince someone to see things the way you saw them. There's a sense of trickery, even though there's a good end to those means. It's like logic fights on the internet, and you're winning by trapping people in a logic loop that they can't escape, because it's true. This method is leaving you feeling upset at yourself, but sometimes life requires it; if they won't even think of listening to you in the first place, sometimes this is the only way.

Eighth Position: The Devil. Others are telling you or seeing that, at some point, you are going to have to confess to yourself that you do contain some shadowy or or "base" parts within you. All of us do; but it seems like you're particularly avoiding the possibility, possibly because of some false ideas and ideals that you've held on to for a very long time. You have to let yourself go; understand that only be embracing these parts of yourself are you going to be able to FULLY understand who and what you are. Self-disgust will lead nowhere.

Ninth Position: The Hanged Man. To me, immediately, I thought that this means you want someone to put the blame on you, to make the reality something you can't escape, whether or not it's your "fault". You hope for this because it releases you from thinking about it; it makes your thoughts about these darker parts of yourself true, which they probably aren't; they are most likely blown a bit out of proportion for varying reasons. You're also afraid of it as well, because I think, somewhere inside, you know that even IF these things you think about yourself are true, they don't make you the sort of monster you think they do. You have to let go of that image that you've built up, it must be sacrificed if you're to move on.

Tenth Position: King of Wands. Looks like, if the cards fall the way they say they will, you'll find your light at the end of the tunnel. I think you're pretty sure that there was meaning in those readings; you just weren't ready to accept it. I think that time is very close at hand, if it hasn't already happened. I think you'll finally find a way to accept it, and from there you'll begin to convince others with what you've learned, as a sort of method of convincing yourself. You'll have new fire and drive; and you'll share it with others. I think you'll finally find a way to understand what everyone else already knows; what you've learned is only a part of the great person that is you, and once you come to accept it, you'll find ways to make it work for you, no matter what it is you want to be able to do with it.



This one sounds a bit rude, and if it is I must apologise! >.< I just... feel that I should be firm in this case.

Also, while choosing your cards, I saw two images. First, I saw an open window to the sky, which was blue. Second, it was like a typical little... demon thingy jumping out through something at me. I jumped a little, which is a new thing for me. Have a protector?

[Samielleus Prince]

heehee me next! I'll just take a general spread please

[luinbariel]

Phew, these readings will be the death of me!

Here goes!

Position One: Knight of Swords. You're looking at your regular order being disrupted by something sudden. Like, this seems to be happening right now, something has come along and upset your usual balance. It might be actions, something you're doing, but I think it tends to lean more towards an idea or feeling. This is something that comes from within you, like a new feeling that makes you smile, breathe in deep, and want to thump your chest. What that idea/feeling is I don't know, but it's personal, related to yourself.

Position Two: Five of Pentacles. This new feeling as mentioned above is being held in check by some financial issues, or some issues of self worth. You aren't sure whether or not you're going to be able to live up to the new feeling that's inside, and what you want to do with it. There is a lot of doubt, a lot that's acting as a killjoy to whatever it is that's bubbling up inside you like a brook. It feels like that bubbliness is freedom from SOMEthing, but you're really doubting it, like you've been stung by this sort of feeling before.

Position Three: Six of Wands. Looks like the suggestion is that people are finally giving you the pat on the back you deserve for something; it seems like whatever that sense of freedom you feel is has been earned by you, and only by you, and others are clapping along with you. They've been waiting for you to take those steps on your own to stop being so confined by whatever it was holding you back.

Position Four: Seven of Pentacles. This acclaim that you get from others seems to be stemming from that same decision you made; it was difficult, and it's still haunting a lot of what you do. You feel that you need to be careful to preserve this new thing that you've gotten, though you want to go ahead and try to make/feel many more similar things. I think it's a prudent warning, at this point, to not run ahead too far; you've just freed yourself, make sure you don't run back into some sort of binding situation.

Position Five: Ten of Pentacles. A golden time to you, in your past; you felt you had everything you needed, that everything was perfect and that you had worked hard to achieve it. I get the feeling that such isn't the case anymore, but that you still have nostalgic feelings for the way things were; but that's just it. They're in the past, and you need to move on from those feelings so that you can begin to make more.

Position Six: Two of Pentacles. New resources in the possible near future. These resources can come in the form of money; though it seems more likely to me that they're going to come in the form of energy itself. You can put this energy towards almost anything, but keep in mind the same warning applies... DON'T RUSH IN. This is something that you deserve, be careful not to squander it. You've waited awhile, I'm sure you'll make the most of it.

Position Seven: Four of Swords. Looks like you WILL be taking your time to think about your decisions very carefully. That energy that you'll receive is as good as money; and it looks like you'll be able to carefully think about how you want to spend it. There are lots of oppertunities, so don't be surprised if it takes awhile for you to think it through.

Position Eight: Three of Pentacles. (God, you have a lot of pentacles.) Others are going to be VERY excited about what you do with that initial energy. In their eyes, it's going to bear fruit almost right away; this fruit may end up being more energy, but it's more likely that it'll end up being a few dollars. You're working hard and doing well in your new endeavour, whatever it may be. Be careful to not get too overwhelmed, though; there is hard work in the future.

Position Nine: Eight of Pentacles. Here's that hard work I mentioned! You actually want to have to work hard, you're certainly hoping for it. You want to be able to throw yourself into whatever it is you decide to do with this gift; but you're afraid of it as well, as it means, of course, hard work. It looks like you're worried about having to work harder than your peers to get what many of them already have, and are afraid of looking like you're not as skilled. Don't worry about that; it's a fear, and if you are vigilant, it will never be more than that.

Position Ten: Nine of Cups. Rewards for efforts made. If everything falls as mentioned here, you'll be looking at a success of some kind, and it will feel GOOD. You've wanted whatever it is you'll be looking at for a long time; long enough to consider it a fond wish, and if you're careful, patient and take your time, it looks like you'll have it. And trust me, you'll deserve it.

Not as detailed, heh sorry about that.

[shadowphoenix]

Thanks overall Luin, a bit to chew on yet several things are true.

luinbariel said:

I think you'll finally find a way to accept it, and from there you'll begin to convince others with what you've learned, as a sort of method of convincing yourself. You'll have new fire and drive; and you'll share it with others. I think you'll finally find a way to understand what everyone else already knows; what you've learned is only a part of the great person that is you, and once you come to accept it, you'll find ways to make it work for you, no matter what it is you want to be able to do with it.

I hope so. Still hard as part of thos visions come very, very, very, and realy very close to the plot of a certain manga. Plus a lot of what I had in mind back about heaven, hell, multiverse and greater plans of certain groups and so on is very similar to this manga.

Well will be quite hard to not make it sound like fluff caught me.

This one sounds a bit rude, and if it is I must apologise! >.< I just... feel that I should be firm in this case.

I had rude things like people telling me I'm making things up or loud and clear and for other people to hear I would be just a hypochonder when I said ADD/ADHD seems to fit my problems.

Several years later and the specific person agrees after bothering to read an article and excuses the actions back then with not knowing enough, back then claiming to know everything better.

Also, while choosing your cards, I saw two images. First, I saw an open window to the sky, which was blue. Second, it was like a typical little... demon thingy jumping out through something at me. I jumped a little, which is a new thing for me. Have a protector?

Yep one demonic one, yet I tend to forget about those.

[scars]

It was very good, pretty much spot on. almost spooky in fact

[luinbariel]

Yay!

I was worried, the thread got all quiet for a short time, lol. I'm glad to know that, despite having not practiced for awhile, I'm still ok.

[Nemmy]

I'd love to have a cross reading. Genreal spread if you dont mind